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The only reason we comment on groups doing the same shows as us is generally because we don't watch most of the other shows out there, because they <i>suck ass</i>. Groups working on other shows suck just as much as groups working on the same shows as us, they just happen to have really bad taste, too.

Just thought you might be feeling left out.

Posted by LordBrian on Wednesday, August 16, 2006  
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No. 599

Anonymous
August 15, 2006
23:26
Re: Hey idiots

Hi,

Which groups in your opinion is up to Triad's standard? And if it's not too much of a bother could you elaborate just a little on why these groups are better than the majority of groups out there or why most groups aren't up to par. Just a couple reasons will do.

I suppose it is also possible that there are some great groups out there with bad taste. If so can you share with us some examples?

Thanks,
Ray
No. 600

Anonymous
August 16, 2006
00:01
Re: Hey idiots

I agree with everything you say, <i>and</i> I'm eating Ritz crackers with Cheez Whiz, which automatically makes me better then everyone else reading this post.
No. 601

Anonymous
August 16, 2006
00:21
Re: Hey idiots

Using product placement automatically cancels that superiority out.

No. 602

Anonymous
August 16, 2006
06:56
Re: Hey idiots

All i funkin care is u guys i dont give a shit about the other groups doing other projects as long i get a shot of ur projects,besides u guys r the shit so keep it up n i give everyone the finger who hates on u.One last thing i want more Bokura Ga Ita now bitches.

<YAMA>
No. 603

Anonymous
August 16, 2006
07:23
Re: Hey idiots

why do you ppl give f**k what other group do ... there is no other group better (that does the same things as you) .... want more Ryu Knight & Bokura

No. 604

Anonymous
August 16, 2006
07:49
Re: Hey idiots

Wait a second... You mean Akagi is a good anime? You're joking, right?

No. 605

Anonymous
August 16, 2006
10:36
Re: Hey idiots

Hethen! How dare thee blaspheme against the show which has noses that haunt peoples dreams! I hope you die multiple times, higurashi style!

No. 606

LordBrian
August 16, 2006
10:48
Re: Hey idiots

Truly spoken by someone with exceptionally poor taste.

No. 607

LordBrian
August 16, 2006
10:55
Re: Hey idiots

Quality in a certain group will, of course, vary from release to release depending on the staff who worked on it, but in general, some competent groups include the following (in no particular order, just pulling names off the files on my hard drive): Solar, afk, Soldats, Anbu. Reasons: attention to detail for such things as grammar and timing and more than a passing familiarity with the QC process.

There certainly may be decent groups out there who just like to pick really bad shows, but it would be tough for me to know about them when I don't watch those shows.
No. 608

Anonymous
August 16, 2006
11:16
Re: Hey idiots

akagi is an awsome anime ... only wankers dont like akagi

No. 609

Anonymous
August 16, 2006
12:36
Re: Hey idiots

why would triad comment on groups that have other shows.

Akagi is a great show, is outside the overdone: magic,mecha,space,shounen,(pocket/card/device) monters, etc...
not that I hate those.
No. 610

Anonymous
August 16, 2006
13:46
Re: Hey idiots

Cosgayers, SHit, Dokuro-chan, Futari Ecchi, Ultra Maniac, Popotan... talk about bad taste.

But yeah, stuff like Azu more than makes up for that crap.
No. 611

LordBrian
August 16, 2006
14:29
Re: Hey idiots

Dokuro started off pretty good, it's not our fault it decided to fail. Popotan got surprisingly good after the first couple of episodes (once it got past its "omg nekkid" stage and hit the story).

As for the others, without UM, we wouldn't have Drago as a translator, so it was a necessary evil. Same with Futari Ecchi and Labaa.

All the blame for the Cosgayers/SHit series rests with aceleader, and we will never forgive him for those.
No. 613

Anonymous
August 16, 2006
19:03
Re: Hey idiots

Hey, I liked Ultra Maniac! :P

No. 614

Anonymous
August 16, 2006
22:45
Re: Hey idiots

Come on, come out of your closet :o

No. 615

Anonymous
August 17, 2006
04:07
Re: Hey idiots

Add Nanoha to the "we wouldn't have Drago as a translator" thingy. -_-

No. 617

Anonymous
August 17, 2006
08:58
Re: Hey idiots

(I'm in no way affiliated with said group.)

I'll add HnK (Hikari no Kiseki) to that list. Can't really think of any others from the top of my head.
No. 618

Anonymous
August 17, 2006
09:49
Re: Hey idiots

akagi has no females in it! hey at least I havent spotted any watching uptill ep 14, it feels like it has yaoi element in it, come on blushing middle-aged mans throughout the eps thats feels just so wrong...

oh yeah back on topic, you(triad) shouldnt have picked up such a crappy show as bokura ga ita. oh well you can do you as you wish so does the other groups you speak of, not that anything can be done about it even if you complain.

btw higurashi was a nice pick, thx and bye.
No. 619

Anonymous
August 17, 2006
10:20
Re: Hey idiots

Gah, I could care less for anyone's opinion, including yours...
Sure, you guys sub series that I watch, and your subs are of very decent quality, but it's not like I know you or something...
I for one wouldn't buy something in a shop because I like the owner...
But hey, that's my opinion, and you should care just about as much as I do about yours, and the opinions of all people behind fansub groups.
Respect, I have, but sympathy I need not have.

Oh and don't take me wrong, you guys are providing some good stuff here.. so respect is in place.
No. 620

Anonymous
August 17, 2006
10:28
Re: Hey idiots

I'll add AnimeOne. Their quality is superb, just take a look at their version of Fate/stay night. Well, if is not licensed in your country, that is.
I guess this group didn't made it to LordBrian's list because they do have some bad taste in some shows (i.e. Naruto).
No. 622

LordBrian
August 17, 2006
11:42
Re: Hey idiots

They didn't make it to my list because they suck.

No. 623

Anonymous
August 17, 2006
12:18
Re: Hey idiots

Decent quality?

Triad's definately one of the three best fansub teams out there along with Anime-empire and Kaizoku-fansubs.
No. 624

LordBrian
August 17, 2006
12:39
Re: Hey idiots

You cared enough to comment, so that's saying something right there.

No. 625

Anonymous
August 17, 2006
13:18
Re: Hey idiots

I'm sorry, what?! I love Triad's quality, but saying that AnimeOne "sucks" is a sacrilege! Well, everyone has a different opinion I guess, but I had to defend AonE. My all-time favourite groups have been AnimeOne, Triad, Anime-Empire and Anime-Keep. I'm not from these fansub groups, hell, I have a non-english fansub group, and those groups are the ones that have gained the respect I have for them. I know that Triad members attitude has always been like this, but this is the first time I witness such an insult to a excellent fansub group.
Oh, and Ayu sucks, I just wanted to say that as well :P. What? I'm saying they suck? Yes, but that's because they _really_ suck. So please reconsider your judgement... well, if you want to, I'm not giving orders. Just my two cents here.
No. 626

Anonymous
August 17, 2006
15:58
Re: Hey idiots

Still, they are some decent shows that are only subbed by sub par fansubbers. Watching a lousy release and at least getting the gist of what's happening is preferable to watching a raw and having no clue what's going on. It's certainly better than having to learn another language.

No. 628

Anonymous
August 17, 2006
16:05
Re: Hey idiots

I don't think so. I'd rather skip a show than watch something blatantly wrong and call it "good enough".

No. 629

Anonymous
August 17, 2006
16:16
Re: Hey idiots

Seriously? It's not like fansubing groups get money everytime you download, so I doubt you'll accomplish much by boycotting bad sub jobs. Not to mention you might have missed out on an interesting series.

No. 630

Anonymous
August 17, 2006
16:29
Re: Hey idiots

AONE AND TRIAD SHOULD JOINT ON 5CM IT WOULD BE AWESOME

No. 631

Anonymous
August 17, 2006
16:33
Re: Hey idiots

I think the Triad is perfectly capable of doing it on their own.

No. 632

LordBrian
August 17, 2006
16:36
Re: Hey idiots

It's not an issue of boycotting shitty groups, it's an issue of not wanting to watch a butchered sub.

No. 633

Anonymous
August 17, 2006
16:59
Re: Hey idiots

PS: You should do Dai Mahou Touge to clear your name after Dokuro-chan!

No. 634

Anonymous
August 17, 2006
17:02
Re: Hey idiots

Like LordBrian said, you don't "miss out on an interesting series", you miss out on a butchered series. There is a very significant difference.

This is, of course, assuming it is butchered.
No. 635

Anonymous
August 17, 2006
17:07
Re: Hey idiots

I think it's just as masochistic to avoid watching shows from certain groups as it is to intentionally watch bad subs just because they come out the fastest. It's like, "Series X sounds interesting, but all the groups subbing it are on my blacklist. Obviously, they'll screw up. So, instead of watching it, I'll just sit here and twiddle my thumbs. Oh! I know! I'll go to Group Y's forums and nag them about taking up this series."

Besides, they are times when a good group drops the ball and other times when a previously crummy group gets better. Or maybe I'm just being needlessly optimistic.
No. 636

LordBrian
August 17, 2006
17:42
Re: Hey idiots

Yeah, I may miss out on a good series once in a while if nobody worth watching subs it, but I'm not gonna sit here twiddling my thumbs and cry about it. I guess I just have a better imagination than some people, because I can find something else to do. :P

No. 637

Anonymous
August 17, 2006
18:15
Re: Hey idiots

I suppose I could do something else and just wait for it to be professionally translated, but I might forget about it in the interim (which would be annoying, to say the least). Besides, fansubs are made by fans, not the aforementioned professionals, so you can't expect them to be perfect. At least groups that try hard and give their all shouldn't be written off as irredeemable just because they made a few mistakes.

No. 639

Anonymous
August 18, 2006
03:39
Re: Hey idiots

But why are you watching the releases of other groups doing shows that you've obviously already seen from also working on them? Well, whether you're watching their releases or not, posting on your site about how shitty the group is and how stupid people who watch or enjoy their releases are sure is a great way of adding inches to your e-peen.

No. 646

LordBrian
August 18, 2006
14:32
Re: Hey idiots

Much like uselessly posting on a useless post. You sure showed me, my feelings are so hurt. Way to go! *thumbs up*

And we generally don't watch other releases, but that doesn't make us deaf to other people discussing them.
No. 647

Anonymous
August 18, 2006
15:47
Re: Hey idiots

Seriously, Akagi is definatly one of the best shows i've ever seen. You can't say that it's unoriginal, and it's an over-popular game for young and old in China\Japan.

No. 650

Anonymous
August 18, 2006
16:27
Re: Hey idiots

Excellent response. And may I add this: Narutaru wasa a joint between AonE & Triad.

From your website:

"NaruTaru (13 episodes)
(Subbed in conjunction with AnimeOne)
Licensed by Central Park Media"
No. 651

LordBrian
August 18, 2006
17:51
Re: Hey idiots

Yes, excellent response, very insightful, as long as you take it out of historical context. Narutaru was the first project Triad did as a separate group, and we were still working out the finer points of things such as group management and distro, so a joint project made sense at the time. Unfortunately, it was also some of the worst work we've ever done, and I would change a ton of things about it if we could do it again.

No. 652

Labaamen
August 18, 2006
17:53
Re: Hey idiots

You DO understand that "professionally translated" doesn't mean it'll be any good, right?
The "good" translators do not usually go into anime. They go into jobs translating things that matter, like corporate or government documents, or hell, even literature.
The translators in the anime business are probably those nappy people in japanese class that eventually majored in it.
No. 654

Anonymous
August 18, 2006
20:23
Re: Hey idiots

I would imagine they have to maintain a certain level of competence in order to keep their jobs. It's not like there is swarms of translators on every project. If something is off, it would be easy to find out who was responsible. Besides, the people that take those government or corperate jobs are the type of people who can speak five languages fluently or something ridicules like that. Of course they wouldn't take an animé subbing job.

No. 657

Anonymous
August 19, 2006
07:29
Re: Hey idiots

Really? What was wrong? Bad translation? Bad editing? Bad timing? Bad trypesetting? Bad QC? Bad encode? Or was it the fact that it was one of the few releases that used a karaoke with special effects?
C'mon, I want to know what was so "wrong" about that version of Shadow Star Narutaru you did in conjunction with AonE. Feel free to elaborate as much as you'd like.
I assume we won't see any joint project between Triad and another group, with the possible exceptions of:

"Solar, afk, Soldats, Anbu"
No. 659

Anonymous
August 19, 2006
10:19
Re: Hey idiots

Heh, you got me on that one, true.
I care enough to be sick of it and say something I guess.
No. 660

LordBrian
August 19, 2006
13:26
Re: Hey idiots

I'm not sure where you got the idea I cared about what you wanted to know, because I don't.

No. 664

Labaamen
August 20, 2006
01:52
Re: Hey idiots

Exactly. So the "professional" anime translators are the "dregs" of the translation industry.

FYI I've seen plenty of translation errors in "professional" releases. You know why no one does anything about it? Because no one gives a shit if it has shitty translations.

From what I hear, compentency is not exactly what the localizing companies have a high priority for. Competency -> higher pay so they'll sooner fire the better translator for the guy willing to work on their projects for minimum wage.
No. 665

Anonymous
August 20, 2006
03:08
Re: Hey idiots

I'll just have to take your word on that since I wouldn't know if a translation is accurate or not. Still, I don't see how competency leads to higher pay. It would be rather difficult to award salary increases based on how accurate a translation is. It would be more reasonable to pay them based on how long they been in the company, which I suppose would give them just as much reason to fire a competant worker, anyway.

Also, I don't agree completely with your portrayal of animé subbing as the McDonalds of the translation industry. There's got to be crummier jobs out there. Like translation sites you can find on the internet. Not the automated ones, obviously.
No. 669

Labaamen
August 20, 2006
12:29
Re: Hey idiots

I guess I'm naive to think that people who do a better job deserve a higher pay. But I'm just saying that if a person is a really good translator, they wouldn't work in anime.

If "professional" anime subbing is the McDonalds of the translation industry, then those translation sites are the panhandlers.
No. 671

Anonymous
August 20, 2006
14:58
Re: Hey idiots

Maybe. Maybe not. I'm sure it varies from person to person, but I don't believe that most people get into that business because they don't have any other options left.

Err... anyway, if those "'professional'" subbers are the lowest of the low, what does that make the "panhandlers." Lower than the lowest of the low? Is that even possible?
No. 674

Anonymous
August 21, 2006
19:46
Re: Hey idiots

This shows that you can't properly say something bad about AonE.
Not to worry, I won't bring this up ever again. I know just about enough.

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