Meh.
Actually, on second thought, I'll post a more friendly newspost:
As you all should've seen it coming, Nanoha's first and second seasons are now officially announced by Generon at AX2007. Following procedures, the torrents are pulled and as usual you are encouraged to buy the DVDs.
July 1st: Updates within...
[3:42pm] <bay|AX|Geneon2> "what are you going to call raging heart in english"
[3:42pm] <zal|AX|GeneonProd> raising heart question
[3:43pm] <bay|AX|Geneon2> in japanese, they use english words... they use heavily accent words.
[3:43pm] <zal|AX|GeneonProd> working with producer to get accurate spellings
[3:43pm] <zal|AX|GeneonProd> for all the attacks and character names
[3:43pm] <zal|AX|GeneonProd> speaking with licensor yesterday
[3:43pm] <zal|AX|GeneonProd> regarding that
[3:44pm] <zal|AX|GeneonProd> to get as much info as possible
[3:44pm] <zal|AX|GeneonProd> I've heard raising, raging heart, etc.
[3:58pm] <bay|AX|Geneon2> Q: plans for strikers?
[3:58pm] <bay|AX|Geneon2> A: working on it
[3:58pm] <bay|AX|Geneon2> its going to take a lot of convincing
[3:58pm] <bay|AX|Geneon2> i believe the sales for the first two season will help determine whether strikers will be picked up or not
[3:58pm] <bay|AX|Geneon2> DVD version of the series
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No. 2291 Anonymous June 30, 2007 13:19 |
Re: Nanoha 1st and 2nd Season Licensed
Wow, more Nanoha Dropping :P |
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No. 2292 Anonymous June 30, 2007 14:49 |
Re: Nanoha 1st and 2nd Season Licensed
Isn't it odd that Kanna is encouraging us to buy the DVDs when he doesn't even like the series? |
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No. 2293 Anonymous June 30, 2007 14:54 |
Re: Nanoha 1st and 2nd Season Licensed
yay for the dvds but meh cuz like all other anime DVDs it is a rip off...only getting like 3 or 4 eps per DVD. i understand its for "dvd quility" but they shouldn't cost like 10$ for that many eps. but thats me... if it cost like 30$ or so for the whole season i would think about paying that more than the 10$ one that only have 3 or so eps. Back to waiting for the next Bokurano. |
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No. 2294 Anonymous June 30, 2007 15:01 |
lawl
nanoha dvds zomg!!! they better be uncut. less nazi then suki?? ROFL banned! |
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No. 2295 Kanna June 30, 2007 15:58 |
Re: Nanoha 1st and 2nd Season Licensed
I told you I'm being friendly. |
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No. 2296 Anonymous June 30, 2007 17:39 |
Re: Nanoha 1st and 2nd Season Licensed
Won't see me cryin' I never liked the show. |
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No. 2297 Anonymous June 30, 2007 18:17 |
Re: Nanoha 1st and 2nd Season Licensed
Ripoff? It's fucking cheap, is what it is. Try $60 for two episodes, in Japan, and see how you like THAT. |
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No. 2298 Anonymous June 30, 2007 19:48 |
Re: Nanoha 1st and 2nd Season Licensed
That just means that it's insanely overpriced rather than just expensive. |
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No. 2299 Anonymous July 1, 2007 04:53 |
Re: Nanoha 1st and 2nd Season Licensed
You're just joking around that's all :P Or you want us to buy them then burn them away^^ |
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No. 2300 Anonymous July 1, 2007 07:01 |
Re: Nanoha 1st and 2nd Season Licensed
If you don't mind, I'd rather try $54 for 46 episodes*, like DVDs in every other genre are priced at. * http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NOIVU4 |
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No. 2302 Anonymous July 1, 2007 12:14 |
Re: Nanoha 1st and 2nd Season Licensed
*one who posted the first comment in this bunch thingy, one who said it was a ripoff*. yes 60 is way more, but we are not in Japan, atleast i am not. but like the other guy said about 53$ for 42 episodes, that would be reasonable. you shouldn't have to buy over a dollar for an episode. True fans (however you wish to define that, i see it has ones who love the series (rateing it a 10...)) will buy the DVDs for 10$ for 3 episodes. Yes there are a lot of people who do buy the DVDs but if the places that sell then would do a more "reasonable" price for them, they probably sale more of them. |
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No. 2303 Anonymous July 1, 2007 13:45 |
Re: Nanoha 1st and 2nd Season Licensed
"true fan"... True idiots you mean? If peoples like them stopped to buy overpriced animes, companies would have to lower their fucking prices! |
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No. 2304 Anonymous July 1, 2007 13:52 |
Re: Nanoha 1st and 2nd Season Licensed
Sometimes I wonder if people know how this economic system works... Anime has a rather small fanbase, which means overproduction can occur rather easily. Overproduction means loss of money for everyone involved in the process. I mean, I'm not bashing on fansubbing, but your ability to choose largely comes from how fansubbing weakens the system for so many people. (I personally have bought and will continue to buy every decent anime I've seen fansubbed) Think of it a slightly different way - 3 eps. = a short movie. It's entirely acceptable for a short movie to cost 20 dollars. And the second you get into special interest movies 30 dollars is also entirely acceptable. |
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No. 2305 Anonymous July 1, 2007 13:54 |
Re: Nanoha 1st and 2nd Season Licensed
And as I'm writing, another idiot comes on... |
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No. 2306 Anonymous July 1, 2007 15:46 |
Re: Nanoha 1st and 2nd Season Licensed
Are you sure you aren't the one who doesn't understand how this economic system works? According to the law of supply and demand, if there is too much supply and not enough demand, the price drops, not rises. The only reason why they put the price where it is is because that is what they think people are willing to pay for it. |
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No. 2307 LordBrian July 1, 2007 17:22 |
Re: Nanoha 1st and 2nd Season Licensed
Or stop licensing unprofitable shows. |
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No. 2308 Anonymous July 1, 2007 21:35 |
Re: Nanoha 1st and 2nd Season Licensed
yes but a movie is only a one time pay thing. so 20 dollars only. you have 20x9 which is 180$ (got 9 from anime is 26 eps.. if you have about 3 eps per vol you will have about 9 volumes.) so 180 for the season.. times that by 2 and you get 360...i dont see how you can compare a series to a movie |
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No. 2309 Anonymous July 1, 2007 22:39 |
Re: Nanoha 1st and 2nd Season Licensed
Here's the simple reason I can compare the two: Amount of work = Amount of work. |
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No. 2310 Anonymous July 1, 2007 22:56 |
Re: Nanoha 1st and 2nd Season Licensed
Heheh... Everyone thinks they know what supply/demand is. There is no "law" of supply and demand - it's a theory and only weakly followed in general. You exemplify the masses with their wrong ideas on it. When it gets down to it, A LOT of economic theory holds little bearing under the supply/demand curves. For instance, supply and demand holds greatly with perishables, but not with products which don't perish. Or even more interesting is the theory of when one party in the process holds all the power in the process (monopolies or some international). Frankly though, three things: Supply for anime is low Anime fanbase is irrational/dedicated To gain a profit in this system of middle-men and flat costs, specialized products cost more. |
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No. 2311 Anonymous July 2, 2007 00:03 |
Re: Nanoha 1st and 2nd Season Licensed
It's a law in the scientific meaning of the word. In other words, it's an observation, rather than an explanation. The later would be a theory. Regardless, what I said earlier still holds. The reason the price is high is because they feel that the fans are willing to purchase it at that price. Since it isn't that popular, they try to make as much money as possible with each sale. It doesn't have anything to do with overproduction whatsoever. |
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No. 2539 Anonymous July 2, 2007 06:46 |
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it's called the law of the idiocy. if there's enough idiot to buy the dvd for so much, they win, else they go sue the peoples who downloaded it to gain some profit of it! :P |
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No. 2540 Anonymous July 2, 2007 06:51 |
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Gyaaaaa... guess I will reenforce some peoples claims about fans willing to paying out of their ass for an anime series they like. I myself will be buying the Nanoha R2 DVDs in a few weeks... why pay over 600 dollars for it, cause I like the series. |
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No. 2542 Mo_Anabre July 2, 2007 10:29 |
No. 2311
Look... it's obvious at this point that you have no clue what the concept of a law is. In the scientific sense, a law is a theory that has been tested repeatedly and never has been falsified in any sense. In the scientific sense, an "observation" is, well, an "observation" (go figure) which is even before the conjecture/hypothesis step. Sure, this means that many "laws" are misnomers (even Newton's "laws" of physics) - that's true and nearly everyone in the respective fields recognizes this. Do everyone a favor: don't argue something when you're inept. And once again you contradict yourself. Your argument was about supply and demand in the previous post, but now you say it has nothing to do with overproduction (which by definition is too much supply). I'm starting to realize why the Triad members usually just call people idiots and then go on with what they were doing. I'm finished with this. Oh, and RON. |
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No. 2543 Anonymous July 2, 2007 11:06 |
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I hope the staff from the triad are not spending all of their time reading such meaningless discussion, so that they can PLEASE hurry with the next eps of bokurano. Once again, THANKS for your nice work. |
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No. 2546 Anonymous July 2, 2007 14:10 |
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Both laws and theories are tested over and over again and never fail. The fact that laws are certain and theories are just hypothesizes is one of the major misconceptions people have. I didn't actually have an argument, I was merely pointing out the flaws in yours. So take your own advice and don't argue about something you are clearly inept in. |
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No. 2547 Anonymous July 2, 2007 14:25 |
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2309, you're honestly telling me that a half hour of Nanoha cost more to make than an hour of House? Hell, House is getting on for having as much animation per episode as Nanoha. |
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No. 2551 Mo_Anabre July 3, 2007 02:25 |
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2543 - I doubt they're bothering ^_^. 2546 - meh, I typed theory when I meant conjecture/hypothesis. Even so a strawman. The main point was that supply-demand models fail often. 2547 - Forgetting overhead? |
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No. 2555 Anonymous July 3, 2007 03:33 |
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The funny thing is that prices of anime DVDs have gone down significantly in the last 4 years, but sales haven't gone up that much. Even some new DVDs are coming out at MSRPs of 24.98 or 19.99 instead of the traditional $29.98, and those prices are always discounted at Best Buy and online. And you can find rediculously cheap collections of most series, like Scrapped Princess for $49.98 SRP discounted down to $30-$35. That sounds in line with pricing on DVDs for US TV shows. I never saw Nanoha, but I picked it up from here awhile back when there were licensing rumors. Will make decision on the DVDs after seeing some/all of it. |
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No. 2567 Anonymous July 4, 2007 15:24 |
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great so now there is only 1 show being subbed? |
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No. 2568 Anonymous July 4, 2007 15:58 |
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2567, there's only been one show being subbed for awhile now. since they released lord of lords...they dropped nanoha3 after the first episode... |
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No. 2588 Anonymous July 11, 2007 10:12 |
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Haha, buy. Buy anime. That's rich. I'll get right on that. |