HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH right on, right on.

This rant wins! And Mikademus is a fag

so i'm gussing all the fansubs that came out before 2002 suck then, cause i sure as hell didn't see any karaoke on any of the trigun or cowboy bebop fansubs for that matter. But your right, a group that would rather spend time making sure the translation, and timing is correct and doesn't want to spend extra time making the one min of show that almost no one watches pretty is a bad group. Go watch some releases from anime-factory and try to say they sucked.

so i'm gussing all the fansubs that came out before 2002 suck then, cause i sure as hell didn't see any karaoke on any of the trigun or cowboy bebop fansubs for that matter. But your right, a group that would rather spend time making sure the translation, and timing is correct and doesn't want to spend extra time making the one min of show that almost no one watches pretty is a bad group. Go watch some releases from anime-factory and try to say they sucked.

If you were referring to me, I haven't actually seen any fansubs from before 2002, but your description of them makes me want to run out and find some of them now. As stated earlier, I hate karaoke, I like the fact that Triad doesn't do karaoke, and I feel they do a good job.

hehe. i think karaoke is stupid. i dont watch it, no one i know watches it either. most of us (i think) just fast forward to where the anime actually starts :)

OMGWTFBBQ i paed al this mone for teh intarnet and now you ass rape us wit no bouncing balls???????

HAHAHAHHAA thats the best rant ive seen in a while WOOOOOOOOOO the OWNAGE

This shit is funny! I agree that karaoke is some gay shit. I don't watch it nor I need it since OP/ED doesn't make the show any better or worse IMHO. Oh this line is pure gold "And for those of you who like to sing along with the songs and need the karaoke, you disgust me." HAHAHHA You should of follow that up up with "RON, Bitches"

"And for those of you who like to sing along with the songs and need the karaoke, you disgust me." They didn't say "people who need the lyrics," they said "people who need the karaoke disgust me," as in "people who need the special effects disgust me."

i don't give a damn for karaoke either, and i hoped, when you gave up nanoha and other shit that you would be a bit faster with releasing bokurano... well, not the case, that's the only thing i could complain about. even if you sometime make mistakes, your job is 1000 time better than 99% of french sub teams, so i prefer to watch anime subbed by you or other english langage teams, even if french would be easier for me. so a big and sincere thank you for the time you people spend doing this for us leechers.

This rant made my day.

I dont give a flying fuck about karaoke either. in fact i prefer clean openings and endings so i can enjoy the real eyecandy instead of flashy text.

Was watching an episode of rozen maiden once and as the opening music started to kick in and the rozen maiden logo was up i realised that the screen was cluttered as fuck with english, romanji and kanji karaoke for the song all running at once on what was intended by the creators to be simply the logo on a white background with flower petals falling behind it

Before then i didnt really care either way about karaoke openings (i do like the idea of alting the english and romanji you see on liscenced releases though)

Since then i've held a deep loathing of anyone who uses flashy karaoke

OMG gaise this animes are t3h shit, everytime somebody speaks its a different font that you cant make out anyway

but thats a different story

I know this rant is old, but it is SO TRUE. Why clutter the screen with english translation + romaji + kanji + lame visual effects?

I often feel that openings are ruined by heavy karaoke crap. Sometimes I wish that the subbed + karaoked opening would be released as a separate file, while the episodes themselves would have raw openings and endings.

Ah fuck y'all I like to sing along and if the subbers decide to do karaoke then that's fine by me, if they don't I'm fine with that too.

Besides it was created for a reason ... not everyone has the free time in the world to digg the lyrics of the songs they hear and like.

A simple clean karaoke could be the least a fansub group should add in their releases.

So fuck yourself and have a nice day!

If you think FUCK is funny FUCK youself and save your money.

Nice Karaoke = OK

No Karaoke = OK

Nice Karaoke = rest sucks = Bad

No Karaoke = rest awesome = OK

people actually WATCH the intro?! i hate that shi, i'd rather get to the fucking episode.

U'r totally right... I watch one time the opening when it's a new anime or it's a new op, but after that i jump directly on the show... Stop being a pussy with ur karaoke!!!!!!!!!!

I could care less as long as the translation & timing don't suck. I think it's also kinda ridiculous that some fansubs do the karaoke sub with hiragana/katakana/kanji/furigana...when the audience is most likely watching it because they can't understand Japanese, much less read it...

I usually watch the opening/endings once and end up skipping through them anyway.

Very good point.

... Where are the people who DO care about Karaoke anyways? Are there just none on Triad? Or none who have the guts to argue.

I like Karaoke sometimes, it is something else, to be added... But well, first things first... Good timing, readable text, good grammar, good encoding. After all that, the Karaoke and all that shit... I've seen Subs without subs for the ending and without subs for the "next episode"... I've seen subs in WMV... All of them had Karaoke... Kinda L4m3, if you ask me. :P

I won't say you're great for not karaoke'ing the songs... But you guys are great, for making good subs, and you're great for having the guts to start the fight agains crapsubs w/ karaoke. :P

i was doing a show once, and didnt want to mess with effects on the kara because i didnt know how, and i didnt rly care abotu it all too much at the time, but i jsut thought id time it, to say that we'd at least made an effort, but it had always bugged me whether releasing a series without a "true" kara was ok. ill sleep better now. thank you.

I couldn't agree with LordBrian.

I agree with anonymous No. 2159.

I personally like watching op's (and ed's if they're good). Bring me into the mood of watching the anime. I also like (good) karaoke effects aswell to help bring the op/ed to life, but no karaoke effects and so on are alright too- Triad's one of my fav fansubbing groups cause of your quality, not cause of your karaoke for example, but Eclipse is probably my fav fansubbing group because they bring quality, speed, and good karaoke altogether.

I can imagine how annoying it would be to have those ass's complaining about your karaoke etc, but i don't think your rant was the way to go. Criticizing EVERYONE that may like karaoke by saying their all gay fags etc... Jeez.

I lost my respect for you. (don't get me wrong, I haven't lost respect for your subs, just yous in general)

Plus if you HAVE to have the text to sing, then you probably shouldn't be singing.

xD

i skip karaokes because its normally its a waste of time

also translation of a song from japanese to english is weird,for example, it might rhymn in japanese, but not english,

not to mention its better for them to sing it, than someone who cant sing with Shit

(i assume cussing is allowed since there is alot in the rank xD)

while i agree entirely that the quality of a fansub is based primarily on the accuracy of the translation and timing of the subs, i still think it should be pointed out that special fonts for kareoke and the like do make for a better finished product, much the same way that having two different coloured fonts when two people are talking is also a nice addition. i'm fine with not having a ""1337" kareoke an d still find Triad fansubs to be of a very high quality, but wouldn't you think that the quiality of their subs would be even better if their OPs and EDs had more to them than just the basic subs? (provided they didn't end up covering the entire artwork or just plain sucking?)

Hilariously, I never watch karaoke in fansubs and fast forward to the content of the episode every time. I'm going to go rofl now. You guys are damn fucking right, the quality of the sub is in the actual subtitles, not some idiotic one-time flashy animations.

I do sing along with the songs, but I don't need the flashy karaoke.

As long as there's romaji and translation in a readable font, as done for example in Kaiji, I'm happy.

Really, does anyone need to see which word is sang at every moment? Don't you have ears for listening?

Sometimes, the karaoke is done so horribly the words only appear when the its sang and that makes it HARDER to sing along.

I couldn't agree more with OP.

10/10.

I would rather have good translation and fine timing of the ep than to have wonderful karaoke with bad translation...

Motherfucking word. People who sing along with the songs and need/want karaoke are fucking sick. Even good karaoke is annoying and gay.

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