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And nothing of value was lost.

Posted by Kanna on Wednesday, May 14, 2008  
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No. 7743

Anonymous
May 17, 2008
11:17
No Subject

That's why you're an asshat.

No one's keeping you hostage. If you think people are keeping you hostage because they aren't giving you what you want (whenever you want it, nonetheless), you need to sort out your brain's wiring.

The only person on these forums who thinks you 're intelligent is you. And you've just been proven wrong.

Time to suck my cock again!

No. 7744

<3 Siesta <3
May 17, 2008
11:52
RE:Solaris

>>7733

How can you honestly say that Shakugan no Shana was better? 1, Shana's got nothing on Louise. 2, Zero no Tasukaima has them fly in a japanese zero plane and shoot dragons. How does that not beat some stupid incest kids, or some pedophile shape-shifter?

I watched all of Shakugan no Shana, and I agree it was a good show, but I just think that Zero's familiar was a better one. I enjoyed watching it more. Not to mention it had more of a story than Shakugan no Shana. Shana's story is mainly "who will get Yuuji?" with a little bit of evil guys attacking for some cliche reason on the side. Zero no tsukaima, it had war, and politics, and French people, and betrayal, and DEPTH. How does that not beat out some loli with red hair and a sword? Not to mention that Del was far cooler than any of the talkinf items in Shakugan no Shana.

No. 7746

Anonymous
May 17, 2008
14:23
No Subject

Japanese Zero planes shooting dragons that's the pinnacle of human culture! Movie with Japanese Zero planes shooting dragons = standing ovations at Cannes guaranteed.

LOL. What's this discussion about anyway.

Wait.

I don't care.

See you at the IRC channels when the GSG rips come out.

Ja ne.

No. 7748

yoyorsp
May 17, 2008
23:27
No Subject

Funimation has become quite a party pooper, they have now also licensed D.Gray-Man....

No. 7749

x2
May 18, 2008
00:17
From "The Critic"?

'And nothing of value was lost...'

Wow. With whiners like these, it's a miracle why anyone would fansub anything.

No. 7750

Solaris
May 18, 2008
04:44
moshi moshi?

hmm why was my last post refused? 3D closed? Message too long? Banning whiners?

No. 7751

Solaris
May 18, 2008
04:52
Re: Siesta (7744)

ok message too long. I'll re-type. Warning OT: I disliked Zero because it's all fanservice. There's barely a story behind it, but it's soo poor. Tha "airplane fight" at the end was good and saved the anime, but that wa yet too little enough. Moreover the second serie was based entirely on the wacky commedy with Siesta. There was no decent story, the main duo was destroyed, Louise was horribly fleshed out and Saito alone couldn't sustain the undecent plot. <continues>
No. 7752

Solaris
May 18, 2008
04:59
Re: Siesta (7744) part II

Warning contiunues OT: Shana, on the other hand had a fairly good storyline. There was al little too much of the love triangle, but it was ok. Shana wasn't based on fanservice but on the sentimental school commedy instead. That was a better choiche in my opinion. We can argue the two series didn't provide proper endings, so that we must wait another serie for further developments. But we can expect from Zero no Tsukaima if not only more fanservice? That is looser.

No. 7753

Anonymous
May 18, 2008
07:21
No Subject

7749: With whiners like <i>you</i>, it's a miracle anyone would fansub anything.
No. 7754

yoyorsp
May 18, 2008
10:33
No Subject

Solaris you are off topic....

No. 7755

Solaris
May 18, 2008
11:25
Re: yoyorso (7754)

Sorry for the OT, but if someone asks you anything it's nice to reply. So did I.

PS: i must remember to mark OT better as people don't read warnings

No. 7756

Anonymous
May 18, 2008
15:23
No Subject

Or, you know, not post random off topic shit. There's an entire forum for that.

No. 7758

Anonymous
May 18, 2008
15:35
No Subject

niggers

No. 7759

Anonymous
May 18, 2008
18:27
No Subject

Every time you import an anime DVD you are carefully fucking with the anime market in your own country. I can imagine that in many cases that's not really a problem because there is no domestic anime market. However, the UK has a growing domestically released anime market, but does not yet have prices as low as the US (I know, I know, but if you lived here you'd be paying more in pounds than what you pay in dollars there). I don't want to screw up the domestic market, so I don't import. Fansubs until UK release is the rule I work by.

No. 7760

Anonymous
May 18, 2008
21:10
No Subject

Then the obvious answer is to go ask a UK group to finish the series.

No. 7761

Anonymous
May 18, 2008
21:22
No Subject

I don't get why a company licenses a series a full year before they even work on it. It's only 13 fuckin episodes...meh, time to go watch the raw episodes and guess what they're saying. Either that or watch people bitch about Bleach getting licensed.

No. 7762

Anonymous
May 18, 2008
22:21
Congratz

You can now fap to your hearts' content about how you got people to beg for something you never delivered.

Dattebayo may be dicks, but they're good at what they do.

* Not a dick, skills: Highly appreciated, undervalued.

* Not a dick, no skills: Appreciated, overvalued.

* Dick, skills: Amusing, undervalued.

* Dick, no skills: Pathetic.

No, you don't belong in category 3. As the old saying goes, "put up or shut up."

No. 7763

Anonymous
May 18, 2008
22:31
postscript

The above wasn't meant as gender commentary. But it's vaguely amusing to look at it that way.

No. 7764

Anonymous
May 18, 2008
22:35
No Subject

That's the only amusing way to look at it. In every other respect, it's just lame and inaccurate.

No. 7765

Anonymous
May 18, 2008
22:45
No Subject

Wow, triad, you suck. You had 2 shows, and you only finished one of them.

What's that? Triad has finished a lot of shows? I never would have known it, the way all the newfags in this thread are acting about one truly awful sequel.

Get some perspective, newfags.

No. 7766

Triad's Grandma
May 19, 2008
01:29
fuck u motherfuckers

you stupid sons of bitches, i should've aborted your mother 40 years ago, i can't believe she would have such disgustingly useless children, what pieces of shit you are my grandsons. i actually liked this series, and thought you would FINALLY do something good in ur fucking life, but no, u had to take the easy way out.

fuck u son of a motherfucker!

No. 7767

Anonymous
May 19, 2008
01:49
No Subject

Firefox 3 RC breaks the front page, sorta. Fix it, please?

I'm also going to ask the Mozilla team to fix their browser.

No. 7768

Solaris
May 19, 2008
04:22
Re: 7756

>Or, you know, not post random off topic shit.

Your're right, as there's not enough shit in this topic, adding some more wouldn't smell much worse, would it?

It wasn't me but 7322 who started an off topic (maybe to tone down the 3D). I just kept it on replyig. So, if it bothers you so much just avoid reading.

>There's an entire forum for that

Like i care... :/

No. 7770

Anonymous
May 19, 2008
08:53
No Subject

Personally, I'm glad you dropped GSG2. And I'm really glad you didn't work on it while Kaiji was on. Kaiji is a much better show.

EAT IT, GUNSLINGER GIRL FAGS!

No. 7771

Kanna
May 19, 2008
09:11
No Subject

> 7767

I'll fix the site when LB announces a new project, if any. He's turned into RaistlinMajere lately.

No. 7772

Merci
May 19, 2008
12:11
Thank You

It was fun while it lasted! Have fun with whatever you move on to, and ignore the greedy, hating bitches.

I appreciate what you guys did do!!! Thank you!

No. 7773

Anonymous
May 20, 2008
02:49
No Subject

Who gives a flying fuck about copyright/lisence bullshit rellay? Filesharing is caring my friends. Cant complain about Triad for their efforts, but dropping the show because of a lisence is really weak.

No doubt a real fansub group will pick up the show and give us some proper DVDrips. Anyways...

No. 7774

Solaris
May 20, 2008
06:49
Piracy

>7773

What's you're talking about is called piracy.

There's only one rule in the fansub world and it is:

"Drop the show if licesed".

Triad was fairly correct with the fansubber etiquette, you can't complain any further.

You'd better complain about engagement and lazyness...

No. 7775

Anonymous
May 20, 2008
09:21
No Subject

>7774

"only one rule in the fansub world"

Are you an idiot? There are no rules in the "fansub world." The reason people drop shows when they get licensed is purely legal - if the company that owns the license wanted to, they could sue the fansub group and bankrupt every member and maybe get them some jail time.

And it seems like not too many groups follow this "one rule" as it is. All the groups subbing Bleach and Naruto clearly don't give a shit.

No. 7776

Anonymous
May 20, 2008
10:24
No Subject

actualy no. Fansubers cant get sued. Noone can sue somone for translating some stuff. Spreading movie itself would be illegal tou but fansubers may not it, just release fansub in srt form. Another matter is that fasnubers tend to respect anime releaser's and and stop doing fasnub so ppl pay for their work(not that I agree how triad did in this case)

No. 7777

Anonymous
May 20, 2008
10:57
No Subject

Thanks for dropping a shitty show so you can be in top shape when Kaiji season 2 is announced.

No. 7778

Anonymous
May 20, 2008
11:19
No Subject

>7776

Way to make shit up, moron. Go read up on the Berne Convention, specifically Article 8, before spewing shit out of your ass as if you know what you're talking about. I have helpfully found a link in case you're too lazy to look, which you clearly are:

http://www.wipo.int/treaties/en/ip/berne/trtdocs_wo001.html#P138_25087

Uninformed idiot.

No. 7779

Pissed Off
May 20, 2008
12:06
Triad JUST QUIT ALREADY!

The-Triad is causing the downfall of anime fansubs as we know it.

Nowadays, I would recommend nobody to download subs from "quality" groups unless it's a 2 year old series that's already finished.

Nowadays, "quality" simply means "we'll sub this whenever our l33t staff feels like lifting their fingers once a month, have fun!"

A BIG FUCK YOU. TO ALL OF YOU "QUALITY" GUYS.

You disappoint tens of thousands of people with your sloppiness and bastard acts. Do you know how many working people came home after long days of work to expect their favorite shows for some entertainment and cooling off?

Even with GSG2 as FUCKING SLOW as your group, it was like a bonus to us who patiently waited. BUT NO, now you see what happens!!!

THIS IS IT. I am never downloading a Triad release, ever again. KAA or A4E DVDrips ftw, I am not letting you guys ruin my days any longer.

Pieces of shit.

No. 7780

<3 Siesta <3
May 20, 2008
12:42
oh Pissed Off...

oh Pissed Off, never say never!

Because one of these days you'll be looking for a series on mininova or something, and you'll find it, but it'll be licensed by Triad, and it'll have the little [Triad] sign in the name, but it'll be the only version of some old show that you're able to come across, and you'll just download it because you don't want to look anymore, and then you'll remember this day, and you''ll think "Ohhhh.. lol". Because in time, we all look back on old memories and laugh.

And

>>7778

Maybe 7776 lives in Angola, Mozambique, Tanzania, Somalia, or any other country that didn't agree with the Berne Convention. In which case, the document would be invalid...

No. 7781

<3 Siesta <3
May 20, 2008
12:43
Dang it, used the wrong word..

Oops, crap, I said "licensed" in my last post by accident, I meant Subbed, not licensed, my B.

No. 7782

Anonymous
May 20, 2008
13:08
No Subject

>7780 If 7776 lives in a non-Berne country, then they can feel free to go ask a non-Berne group to finish subbing the series. Why should Triad risk <i>anything</i> for people as ungrateful as most in this thread?
No. 7783

Solaris
May 20, 2008
13:23
Re 7775-78

I guess you're the same person talking shit to everybody, aren't you? So you know how to use google. That is great. We apreciated it. Now could you please show us how polite you actually are, and stop insulting people?

Everybody knows there's an international law that protects copyright in every form. Of course the matter isn't easy as every country has its own, or even It may also not have any copyright law at all.

You're so smart so pls comment Article #16 from the link you posted, expecially regarding how to sue somebody in a country where you haven't any legal protection or representation?

You stil can do something, but it's long and tedious matter.

And going to jail depends on the laws of your country... so it's not that obvious ^^

Fansub was born not to be piracy, but to let culture spread beyond cultural differences. Volunteers, translating stuff from japanese to english made avaible a new culture to western audience that barely knew something about it.

Being born as a "promotion", this golden rule was adopted. That is cease any activity and distribution as soon as a how is licensed. That means when a localized version of the show was to be distributed in your country, fansub shouldn't be necessary anymore and should stop.

So the rule isn't a law, but a well behaved principle of conduction. It's something a fansuber may adopt or not. But not adopting that means you're no longer a fansubber, but a pirate. That is :)

Fansubber that keep on fansubbing a show may not even be American. The show wasn't licensed elsewere yet (as far as i know) so there may be still someone on Earth who could need localizzed fansub.

Hey headache? The matter wasn't so simple uh? So next time you want to insult people just think twice about it and just shut up ;)

No. 7784

Anonymous
May 20, 2008
14:06
No Subject

What the fuck are you even talking about? The argument was that when the show was licensed in the US, Triad shouldn't have dropped it even though most of them are located in the US.

You're going on about interpreting laws as rules and fansubbing ethics, and generally being incoherent.

No. 7785

Anonymous
May 20, 2008
14:33
re 7783

Yep, fansubbing is VOLUNTEER work.

So why do so many dipshits here talk as if it's their god-given right to receive subs? It almost sounds like they paid for it. Oh, wait.

No. 7786

Solaris
May 20, 2008
14:42
Re 7784

Oh boy! That's your topic and I can reply, about how the triad did well dropping it according to that fansub ethics you despise so much. We can be sorry about it, but that's the way it is. I am sorry too but didn't came here to insult people like you do.

The real topic is "GG2 Licensed - And nothing of value was lost." Wanna speak about it or just link stuff you didn't even care to understand?

No. 7787

AngryJellyfish
May 20, 2008
16:47
No Subject

Sucks to live in the UK with only a Region 2 DVD player... I'll finish this series somehow though. Great job on the episodes you did release Triad.

No. 7788

Padania Inhabitant (relly: i'm from Milan)
May 20, 2008
18:04
and so?

i don't get why so much weeping about this bullshit anime.

or should i say "cartone di merda"?

you have lost nothing at all.

No. 7789

Anonymous
May 20, 2008
19:38
7779

almost had me there lol

7/10

No. 7791

Neji
May 20, 2008
22:36
No Subject

Joining the Shana VS Zero discussion and Zero was by far better. The Zero was by far better the whole 2nd season of Shana was "Shana!"..."Yuji"..."Shana!"..."Yuji"..."Shana!"..."Yuji"...it was so annoying. No story and char geting stupid after every episode. Yuji has gone through somu ch shit and still was returd the same goes for Shana, I mean I know Tsundare, but does she has to be that stupid at least Luise learned. No comparison for me and Zero no Tsukaima is geting the 3rd season

No. 7797

Solaris
May 21, 2008
02:53
Re Neji 7791

Lol It seems that people like this nice OT after all. We really should move to a forum where we could discuss freely.

I respect your opinion and Siesta's too. I also stated mine before. No need to add comments here. Let me just say we're actually not discussing about masterpieces of anime ^^

I suggest to move to a proper place to discuss this

Maybe Random Curiosity Blog, where i posted some comments on Shana's last episode (same nick as here), or to some good forum like Animesuki (my nick there is Uran)

No. 7798

Solaris
May 21, 2008
03:41
Shoot down the Padanian Activist!

I could understand why you don't like this anime. Is it not a matter of bad graphics or story, is it?

It's because Padanians like you are the fellons in the anime. Relax, that is all fictional :) and be ready to be shoot down by Henrietta buahaha :P

(I'm just joking :P)

No. 7808

Padania Inhabitant
May 21, 2008
10:31
nah

we are fellons even in real life :D

this anime was really nothing special overall.

the very concept "cute girls made into cyborgs for war purposes (wait the girls still show up some feelings, oh CUTE -.-)" makes me sick...

No. 7810

Anonymous
May 21, 2008
11:49
hm

Fuck you very much Triad. You are even slower releasing than Menclave. That is really something and this is just the cherry on top.

For the fucks who say they hated watching this series: no one forced you to download the damn thing. The animation style may be debatable but IMO the story is pretty good.

No. 7820

Anonymous
May 21, 2008
17:24
No Subject

Suddenly angry pedo's, hundreds of them.

No. 7824

Anonymous
May 21, 2008
19:31
No Subject

>>7779

I don't think they'd care if you never download any of their releases from now on. =\

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